Warbots Advertisement in Dragon Magazine

I was doing my occasional Googling for John Dennett's Warbots information and came across this ad on Philip Reed's blog Battlegrip. The ad was a half page in Dragon Magazine of April 1985 and I'm assuming that the artwork is John's.

Featuring a Battle Trooper Mk IV.

It's interesting to me that it was being promoted as an RPG and not a wargame. I'd love to find a copy of it if anyone knows its whereabouts or even who was writing it.

And of course I had to throw some colors on it.

New Dennett Demogorgon Sculpture!

John Dennett, the sculptor of the Demogorgon miniature used in Stranger Things, will soon be launching a Kickstarter to fund a "perfect" version of his Demogorgon design. John has begun working on the piece and to tide us over, he's posted pictures of the armature including an amazing scale shot featuring the original Grenadier Demogorgon. Cool ain't it!

Check out the Demogorgon Facebook page for information about the upcoming Kickstarter!

Big-un ain't he?!

A newer, dynamic pose and massive scale to capture John's original vision.

Stranger Things "Demogorgon" Sculptor Tells All!

The new Netflix series Stranger Things is a pitch-perfect love-letter to 1980s pop culture and especially the nascent sub-culture surrounding Dungeons & Dragons. Seamlessly melding John Carpenter soundtracks, Stephen King small towns, and Spielbergian wonder with a dramatic and satisfying plot, Stranger Things is quite simply, amazing.

In the first episode we are introduced to four middle-school aged friends who are deep into a rousing game of Dungeons & Dragons. Mike, the dungeon-master, is building up to the party's next encounter. After a sly bit of mis-direction he hammers this miniature onto the table.

Picture by Alex Bates.

Picture by Alex Bates.

And it gave me a chill when I saw it.

One of John Dennett's classic Fantasy Lords miniatures sculpted for Grenadier Miniatures and a model that I once owned along with several of John's other creations. To have such a complete nostalgia loop hit me so early in the show created a connection that I'm still sort of buzzing over. And far from being merely a nod or name-check, the "Demogorgon" as its known in the kid's game, remains relevant for the entire show.

So I reached out to John Dennett to learn a bit more about this suddenly remembered classic mini. As always John has been very gracious and helpful when it comes to his fans.

The Demogorgon is now being produced by Mirliton Miniatures in Italy.

NEWS!!! John Dennett is working on a new DEMOGORGON! Check it out here:
http://roebeast.blogspot.com/2016/11/new-dennett-demogorgon-sculpture.html

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RB: How long had you been sculpting for Grenadier when you sculpted the “Demogorgon”? 

JD: I began working as a free-lance sculptor for Grenadier Models in 1982 and after a few months was offered a full time position at the company sometime in the early Autumn as I recall. The Demogorgon was sculpted in 1984 and released within weeks of my completing it. That was pretty much the way things moved at the company, soon as the sculpture was finished it went to the mold maker and usually within a day or two was spun for initial casting.

RB: Was the miniature sculpted to represent the Demogorgon from Dungeons and Dragons 
or meant as more of a generic demon? 

Demogorgon with the original Monster Manual artwork. Picture by Alex Bates.

JD: At the time I came on board full time at Grenadier, they had ceased their association with TSR on the licensed AD&D figure line. First thing they wanted to do was to phase out the AD&D figure sets and replace them with similar counterparts. We received input from the fans and elsewhere as to which characters were most popular across the RPG environment and usually worked those suggestions into our lines. Demogorgon was one of those. My job was to design a character that could be used as the desired one but keep it different enough to stand on it's own for our purpose of not copying what had gone before. I redesigned the Demogorgon to more of a unique monster in keeping with my stye of art. As I recall I added a second pair of tendrils, extra eyes, crests to the tops of the heads etc. I would have made it larger in scale but there were always restrictions with fitting into our packaging and this needed to seat within the confines of a bister pack.

RB: Any thoughts on the other little demon included in the set? 

JD: If you're referring to the little impish creature, that was one of my original designs that was actually released in a few different ways. One had wings, one did not and there was a third with varied features. I don't remember which one ended up in the blister though.

From The Lost Minis Wiki.

RB: What materials was the original sculpted in and how long did it take?

JD: All my originals were sculpted using Atlas Epoxy-Bond epoxy putty as the medium. This was favored for a good many reasons but was durable enough once cured to withstand the Vulcanizing process of high-temperature and pressure in preparing the master molds.

The exact amount of time to create the sculpture was probably 3 working 8 hour days or so. The only things that took longer were the standard dragons, some giants and my War-Bots.

Dennett's War-bot minis.

RB: All of your minis push the limits of what can be cast in a two part mold, especially in the 1980s. How much did you learn about casting miniatures before starting to sculpt them?

JD: I was always trying to figure out how things worked and prior to my time at Grenadier I collected toys and models and studied parting-lines and part breakdown. Marx play-set figures were approx. 54mm and the parting lines were prominent. On their larger 6" hard plastic figures it became easier to understand why parting lines were established where they were and how things like surface details became less prominent approaching them. The Marx "Nutty-Mads" series of figures were great educators for me even before getting into the business of designing figures for production.

A Marx Toys "Nutty-Mad". From Wikipedia.

Once I was at Grenadier I worked closely with Rich Jennings who was the head of the mold making and casting departments to establish what I could "get away with" with the  design and animation of my sculptures.

As I already mentioned, there were several restrictions, mostly packaging related, that limited my ability to create more dynamic sculptures. That and the rule to keep the sculptures as 'one-piece' as possible. That was always tricky! I hated the look of flattened figures that almost patterned the look of Egyptian tomb paintings, even though that was the easiest way to mold them...press the prototype in the the uncured rubber and have minimal build-up to establish parting lines. So I always pushed for more animation where ever I could in my designs. 

Rich, to my delight, embraced the chance to to more complex molds and readily accepted all that I presented to him. The size and thickness of my sculptures were always a bone of contention to me. I knew they would be much more impressive if I was allowed to go larger and with additional parts. Ultimately this was one of the reasons I decided to part company with Grenadier in 1986. I felt I had done all I could in 25mm miniatures under those limitations and was anxious to move on and pursue other things artistically.

One of Dennett's more recent gaming miniature sculpts, a Histath for Forge of Ice. Painted by Andrew Taylor of Antediluvian Miniatures. 

RB: Have you been watching Stranger Things?

JD: Not as of yet, but I plan to as soon as I get a little free time. I've read nothing but shining reviews on the series so I'm looking forward to binge-watching all episodes once I have the chance.

RB: If you could go back in time to when you sculpted this and say: 

”Hey John, this miniature is going to be a really big deal in a very popular series in the year 2016.”, what would your response have been? 

JD: Probably my response would have been; "Hope I live long enough to see that happen!"  

If I could go back in time and know what I do now, I'd be getting royalties on every thing I created back then for as you know, 32 years later many of my creations are still being produced and sold throughout the world. But really, who knew? I of course am flattered my work has held up through the decades and is still in demand today...maybe more than when first released.

John Dennett at his work-desk. From a Japanese Grenadier Miniatures catalog.

RB: Do you have any interest in sculpting for film and television?

JD: Yes I do and have for a long time. It hasn't happened as of yet but I won't fight the opportunity if it should manifest.  That would be a total blast for me to achieve some screen credit for my artwork after a lifetime of creative design.

RB: What are you currently working on at Moondevil Studio?

The Life Leecher from Moondevil Studio.

JD: I'm constantly creating new sculptures in a wide range of scales targeted at the hobby modeler. These resin model kits are designed, sculpted, molded and cast  by me as not only a source of income but a chance to express myself in sculptural form in ways I had been planning to do all during the years I was working commercially. Commercial work, though it pays the bills, isn't the ideal environment for one who relishes in doing creative design as the majority of the subjects handled commercially are licensed properties with very little or no opportunities to expound on beyond the established style guides. That is why I created Moondevil Studio, to indulge in sculpting my favorite things and offering them to a limited degree to an audience that particularly enjoys my work...even if its a completely unique concept.

At the present time I'm offering my "Imaginary Fiends" line of miniature busts, 1/2 scale busts of Classic Movie Monsters, "Crypto Legends" figures based on mysterious animals not yet proven to exist, and lots more.  New pieces are offered almost on a monthly basis so I keep busy with this in addition to taking on commissions from time to time.

Imaginary Fiends.

Classic Movie Monsters.

My website is not up to date, which I'll rectify shortly, but I have two pages on Facebook where I post what I'm working on @ "John Dennett" and whats available in kit form @ "John Dennett's Moondevil Studio".

My website is: www.moondevilstudio.com

I'd like to thank you Brian, for this little interview concerning my Demogorgon who appears to have become somewhat of a celebrity now that he's been spotlighted on Stranger Things.  And thank you to your readers who took the time to absorb some of my personal history with Grenadier and beyond. Peace!

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And special thanks from me to John, my shield-brother Alex Bates, and the fine folks at the Old School Miniature Facebook group.  

Grenadier Catalog from Japan Featuring John Dennett.

John Dennett posted some scans of a rare Grenadier Miniatures catalog from Japan. Besides the fact that it's in color it also features some great pics of a young Mr. Dennett at his sculpting desk. 

My favorite bit is of course the painted Warbots minis and John has verified that some of the schemes used are from the insert sheets that he created for the Warbots boxes.

Super cool stuff and thanks to John for posting and allowing me to post them here!

I would paint your house for a copy of this catalog.

Bloody gorgeous aren't they?

Newly Discovered Warbots Art by John Dennett.

It's no secret that the Warbots conceived and sculpted by John Dennett and produced by Grenadier Miniatures are some of my favorite miniatures ever. John also created some great color cover art for the boxed sets as well as the fun information sheets that came with them.

But what even I didn't know is that he had also created pen and ink artwork of the Warbots. This art was to be used in the Mayfair Games game to be called Warbots, which was based on John's creations. 

Thanks to John Dennett for sharing these and allowing me to post them on the blog and to Jeff R. Leason for giving some more info on the great sounding game that should have been.

An unproduced Warbots design from the Grenadier Bulletin. Perhaps a new Battle Trooper?
Scan by Ray Miller.

The original announcement the started my Warbots obsession. Is that an OGRE GEV without engines?
Scan by Ray Miller.

Cover art for the Runner Pod Attack Team.

Information sheet that came with the Runner-Pod Attack Team. Scans courtesy of Ray Miller.

Cover art for the Armored Destro Squad.

Squad markings and color schemes for various units within the Warbots world.

Advertisement for Warbots Role Playing Game by Mayfair Games from Dragon Magazine, April 1985. Scan courtesy of Philip Reed.

Following is the artwork that John recently scanned and shared with us. I'm hoping to color some of them at some point and to make images showing each mecha in various squad markings.

Battle Trooper Type IV

Activoid Shifter MK IIA code name Cobra.

Activoid Shifter MK I code name Viper.

Activoid Shifter MK II code name Sidewinder.

Runner Pod Type "B" code name Saracin.

Runner Pod Type "A" code name Vigilante.

Destro Walker Pulverisor.

Destro Walker Devastator.

Destro Walker Eliminator.

Sonic-pulse Saucer. From John Dennett:
"They were to be drones that accompanied the "Runner-Pods" & the "Activoid-Shifters" into the battle zones taking aim at mine fields and faster enemy land and air threats. I never got to the point of sculpting them but you can see two of them in action on the "Runner-Pod Attack Team" box art." 

Dread-naut Land-Leveler. These were meant to be three times the size of the Destroid Squad Walkers but were never produced.

Check out my earlier posts for painted versions of the Destro Walkers minis. All of these minis are now available from Mirliton here.

And check out the amazing stuff that John Dennett is creating at Moondevil Studio.

Warbot Battle Trooper Mk IV.

It's been a while since I've been able to revisit the Grenadier Miniatures Warbots by John Dennett but I've finally had a chance to finish the Battle Trooper Mk IV. This little fella is pure vintage sci-fi, from his globe-like head to the flared legs. For a warbot meant to fight alongside or against mecha like the Destro Walkers he seems to be lacking a bit in the size department. However the weapon load out of a laser rifle and what I imagine to be some sort of particle cannon implies that while the Battle Trooper might not be able to soak a lot of damage it can deal out plenty.

Like the other Warbots this mini was designed to be used with micro-armor scale games but it also scales up or down really well. With 6mm minis it looks like an imposing, man piloted battlemech. For 15mm and larger it starts to look more like a vintage patrol-bot, designed for use in large numbers and computer controlled. It is a simple design that can be used in a variety of systems and could easily be modified or kit-bashed.

These are currently available from Mirliton in a pack of three minis.

Troops by Rebel Minis.

Trooper conversion using a Wargames Factory Greatcoat Trooper.

Warbots Destro Walkers.

In 1984 Grenadier Models Inc. was producing some of my favorite miniatures. I was just getting into Dungeons and Dragons and Call of Cthulhu and Grenadier had both covered with their Dragon Lords line and the official CoC miniatures. I used to get the Grenadier Bulletin and stare with covetous eyes over the assortment of new minis, read every word of the adventure scenarios, and groan at the unfunny cartoons. Getting to go to my local game store was next to impossible so I would often re-read these bulletins over and over, memorizing certain photos or drawings and instilling them into my personal mythology.

One of the Grenadier Bulletins that I most remember was dated November 1, 1984 and contained a small article stating "Robots Invade!" The grainy black and white photo included with the story showed two insectile robots that seemed to be peering down at a small tank or hovercraft in front of some oddly out of time buildings that looked like something out of Ireland in the dark ages. The article explained that these two walkers were the beginning of the Warbots range and that there were rumors that other game companies were interested in created giant robot games as well. Oh boy, the industry scuttlebutt back then was fierce.

The article from The Grenadier Bulletin.

The Warbots designs and setting were the brainchild of John Dennett, at the time long known as one of the industry's best sculptors of fantasy miniatures, and were such a complete departure from his normal sculpting that these came as a bit of a shock to me. The designs were widely varied from the strange amalgams of the Activoids, the previously mentioned Runner Pods, and the mecha that I'll be talking about here, the Destro Walkers.

There were two boxes of Warbots released, The Runner Pod Attack Team and The Armored Destro Squad. The Armored Destro Squad contained three Destro Walkers and a much smaller Type IV Battle Trooper (this little fella will be discussed in a future review). The three Destro Walkers were meant to be very large walking mecha that could mount varied load-outs of weapons depending on their usage.

Much like the destroids from Macross all of these walkers shared the same leg sections. Although this must have helped somewhat with miniature production it also worked within the design framework of giant robot design from Japan. The torsos and arms also implied a modular system so that a gamer could create the weapons load-out that they wanted.

The three designs included in the Armored Destro Squad are as follows:

Devastator

Code Name: Devastator. Armed with dual cannons, a long range missile rack on its back, and a battle claw this walker appears to be useful for long range bombardments. The front seems to have a huge radiator system which might be useful for long range units that don't require as much frontal armor.

Pulverisor

Code Name Pulverisor. Armed with a gatling gun and and larger single barreled cannon. This walker seems to be more heavily armored and more of a close assault unit. It is designed to go in all guns blazing with a fast firing rotary cannon for quicker units and a large bore tank gun for more heavily armored foes.

Eliminator

Code Name Eliminator. This walker again appears to be a long range bombardier with a arm mounted pod of swarm missiles, the lovely kind you see streaking through the sky before any Macross engagement, plus three cannon which seem to be battleship weight weapons. Although the claws on both the Devastator and Eliminator could be used in close combat I also see them as useful for loading munitions on these walkers.

One of the super cool things about the original Warbots sets were the filler sheets that explained paint schemes for the various Warbot units. I chose the Tigersharks scheme of overall yellow with black and red trim. I used some microscale decals to add some unit markings and even attempted a shark's mouth marking on the Pulverisor gatling. Unfortunately this decal was really too small too look correct but would have fit right in with the Tigersharks' markings.

The Warbots line was originally designed for micro-armor scales but I think that they work equally well with 15mm minis. They are very cleanly sculpted which makes them a breeze to paint and gives lots of surface area for graphics or camo schemes. And the modular design allows them to be modified or converted easily. It would be really useful if the arms and torsos could be bought separately at some point to allow for other load-out combinations.

With Combine Infantry from OGRE Miniatures.

With 15mm Titan Marines from Rebel Minis.

I scored an original box of these, thanks to The Dozing Dragon from The Lead Adventure Forum, and was amazed at how crisp the castings were from twenty eight years ago. They are very smooth and even, something that the sculptors of Battletech miniatures struggled with during the same period. It's pretty amazing to see how John Dennett could switch from excellent biological to excellent technical sculpting without missing a beat. I guess he's just that good.

All of the original Warbots miniatures have been re-released by Mirliton in Italy and can be found here. Thanks to Stefano from Mirliton for making these available again and to John Dennett for his support.